Talon Kitsune
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
7
   |
Posted - 2012.07.26 10:41:00 -
[1] - Quote
Pipa Porto wrote:But is he wrong?
Nope.
Fitted properly, a Hulk cannot be profitably ganked.
Is he wrong? Not really, he's not really right either tho. Profitability? Come on, 90% of mining ganks aren't profitable to begin with, for the majority it's not a profit game.
To gank the first two you don't need a Nado or Talos, create an alt, spend about two weeks, maybe a month if you want to do it right, spend about 20-30 million if you really want to tweak it out, and you can kill them easily enough in anything below a .7 system. For the third? Bring a friend or two (or have them do the same), still don't need to bring a nado or talos or spend anywhere near as much time or money as the miner did. You have to bring ten gankers in some pretty nicely geared catalysts to be about at even cost. And that only applies to hi-sec. That's where the balance issue is.
It's not that you can kill a miner, everyone is suppose to be killable, I get it and I accept it. No the issue is when the amount of time, effort, and cost involved is so absurdly much lower than your target that there isn't balance or anything close to it. You're spoon feeding gankers who have no need to bother with "skill" or even basic knowledge of the game. All they have to do is spend less than a minute reading one of the many gank guides out there or spend a few minutes watching the youtube videos. Toss in Goonswarm throwing money at them, and you've got yourself a great environment for e-peen measuring "hardcore" pvpers to pick on the weakest possible targets they can find, and claim it took some measure of skill or effort.
Are these changes a little overboard? Probably, but if it means the ganker has to spend anywhere near as much time and money as the miner did, then it's a step in the right direction. If it turns out that for a while the miners are on the plus side of the equation, well after so many years of being on the far negative side, maybe it's just karma. Who knows, next patch al DPS values could be tripled and this will be a moot point.
Me personally? I could care less about the changes, I spend a decent amount of time mining, but I've never been ganked mining or even forced to dock, and I run a 10k EHP hulk with x2 MLU's one loadout of mining drones and one of ECM. I *might* switch to a Mackinaw so I can miss a cycle once in a while if the yield difference is as small as it is in some threads, but it's very likely I'll just keep doing what I've been doing.
So feel free to complain about how miners are being visited by the barge fairy and that we're stupid little people who don't get that the game is about pew pew, whatever. Who really cares? I mean really, it's a fricken video game. Yes we spend time and some money on it (atleast before we get enough to just buy plex with ISK), but still it's just a game. It's meant to be fun, if this somehow ruins your fun, then find the new lowest target on the food chain and move on to that. If killing miners is your primary fun, then just move out of hi-sec or start war-dec'ing. |